![]() ![]() You can't get the penetration needed for a lung/heart shot on bigger ones, so it goes to just an ear shot. You can get the hard-to-find (more 'exotic' maybe, not sure on the right word) subs that expand- but they aren't suited to what I usually hunt (mainly hogs). It was a generalization- I wouldn't hit a deer with 208 amax or 220 smk. This is an even worse hunting round than subsonic 300 BLK. You are much better off shooting subsonic 22 long rifle instead. They are expensive and unreliable in semi-autos. "Subsonic" 5.56 = In most instances this is not something that is practical. I use it for more of a fun round for shooting steel and new/youth shooters to be able to shoot a centerfire round with little kick and report. I also don't currently hunt with it either due to unreliable expansion although there are some expensive boutique rounds that will expand. I don't wear plugs with subsonic 300 BLK, it can be ridiculously quiet. ![]() The subsonic 300 BLK doesn't have a sonic crack and there is typically less powder (or much faster burning powder) resulting in the very low sound levels you have seen on video. Subsonic 300 BLK = There is a huge difference between these two. They are both much quieter than shooting unsuppressed, so don't let that detract from getting a can, it is worth every penny. I hunt various animals with both of these. I wear ear plugs when shooting these two suppressed. They both have the supersonic crack sound and some ejection port noise in a semi-auto. Supersonic 300 BLK = Not alot of difference between the two perceived by the shooter. Let's make sure we are comparing apples to apples: That said, I would prefer a supersonic 300 over a 5.56/223 for deer or hogs. My son has killed a bunch of hogs with the 5.56/223, and with the right bullets, the round is remarkably effective. Any good bullet at supersonic velocities. If I were going to cull does, the sub sonic 300BLK REAPER ammo would be my choice, if I was going to hunt bucks with the 300 then I would select the supersonic REAPER ammo, or the Barnes 110's or Fushions. If I were to use that ammo for deer hunting, it would be for close range use from a stand or hide where I could wait for the perfect broadside shot. I tried hard to kill a coyote with the REAPER sub sonic ammo, but the opportunity just never presented itself. You can find it in the online store and some write up about it the hog hunting forum, in the outdoors category. ARFCOM sells loaded subsonic 300BLK ammo with bullets that will expand properly at subsonic velocities. I believe that there is ethical 300BLK sub sonic ammo available, or the bullets to load your own. But then the issue of lethality and ethically killing game comes up. When using 300BLK sub sonic ammo, the difference is huge. To perhaps add some clarity - the 300blk is quieter than the 5.56/223 when using 300BLK sub sonic or super sonic ammo, but the difference when using 300BLK super sonic ammo the difference isn't all that significant. I have a range just outside our kitchen window, out into the fields. With full power jacked rounds you need to call a halt around 200 yards or so some say more but from a 160 yard zero I am needing 2 moa elevation and 10 mph fv wind is 5,6 moa ( ie around a foot ) so realistically your looking for little wind or 6 o clock 12 o clock for longer shots to be on Hornet loads down well with red dot into 22 mag or 22 lr with cast lead My range is into open air with nothing for the sound to bounce off, it's allot noisier shot along the length of a stone wall as the sound wave bounces off the wall making a series of bangs but bleded into one by our brains, can't stop that with any supersonic cartridge ![]() That's with a case full of hogdens lilgun powderĢ23 has twice the powder capacity over a hornet so it's definitely more noise unless you put a bigger better moderator on it Rimfire are not safe with such a moderator She cannot hear the hornet with a pes scout cf moderator My wife could hear the hmr I had with a sak moderator ![]()
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